“Greatest” Muscle Car?
Poncho Pete asked:
Examples; 1970 Buick GSX 455, 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle 454/450 H.P., 1967-1968-1969 Pontiac Beaumont 427/435 H.P., 1969 Plymouth GTX 426 or 440, 1970 Dodge Challenger 426 Hemi or 440, 1970 Pontiac GTO JUDGE 455...
1967 Pontiac Acadian with factory 427 cid 'Astro - Jet,"Tin Indian", Larry "Doc" Dixon, AHRA, B/Modified Championship, World Championship Deland, Florida. 1961 Pontiac Catalina 421 Super Duty first car under 13 second 1/4 mile, first in the World. Hayden Proffitt, "Mickey Thompson" factory 1961 Pontiac Catalina 421 S.D. 1/4 mile in 12.55 seconds @ 110.20 MPH! Jim Wangers, 1962 Pontiac Catalina 421 S.D., 1/4 mile in 12.38 seconds @ 116.32 MPH! 1962-1963 Pontiac Catalinas ruled Nascar! 1963 Pontiac Tempests Ruled GT Racing, beating the 1963 Ferrari 250 GTOs and 1963 Cobras, 1963 Covette 427s, and whoever else was there by over FIVE MILES! Arnie 'The Farmer" Beswick, "Mr. Pontiac slaughtered the debut of the 1964 Dodge 426 Hemis and debut of the 1964 Ford Fairlane 500 "Thunderbolts" with his older with 421 S.D. 1963 Pontiac Tempests, one a four door station wagon! 1963 Pontiac Lemans Tempest 421 S.D., "Running Bear" did 1/4 mile in 11.89 sec. @ 123.28 MPH! Muscle Car Era; 1964-1972!
Internet References.; (1) 2006 Drag Racing Hall of Fame Inductee Arnie 'The Farmer" Beswick (2) www.arniebeswick.com (3) Ray Nichels (4) www.automotive-art.com, 'Racing in the Rain" (5) www.empgmc.com, " Race/Knafel" (6) grocerygeeter.com (7) Pontiac Performance 1955-1973, Archival Pontiacs (additional info;)(The Plymouth GTX is COOL, only two engine options; 426 HEMI or 440) (1970 Challenger Lots of Power 426,440, and Great Looking Car) (Ray Nichels in charge of Pontiac's Race Program, G.M. out of Racing 1963, Ray Nichels went to work on Dodge's Racing Program!)
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1970 Buick GSX 455 Ruled the Buicks, (Stage 1 never impressed me! Didn't they have other Stages?) I don't feel like searching for my 1967 Pontiac Owners Manual, I will take your word for now, 427 @ 390 H.P.! The Olds 442 was a good concept, 4 spd manual, 4 barrel, dual exhaust, but lost me when they contradicted themselves and put in automatics! I loved the cars without power steering, they said you couldn't turn them, I just turned the wheel a bit, reved up the engine let the clutch out, gave it some gas, peeled those tires and around she went, it was easy, I never had problems with non power cars, and what's with all these automatics, no body knows how to drive anymore?
BMW Fan
Examples; 1970 Buick GSX 455, 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle 454/450 H.P., 1967-1968-1969 Pontiac Beaumont 427/435 H.P., 1969 Plymouth GTX 426 or 440, 1970 Dodge Challenger 426 Hemi or 440, 1970 Pontiac GTO JUDGE 455...
1967 Pontiac Acadian with factory 427 cid 'Astro - Jet,"Tin Indian", Larry "Doc" Dixon, AHRA, B/Modified Championship, World Championship Deland, Florida. 1961 Pontiac Catalina 421 Super Duty first car under 13 second 1/4 mile, first in the World. Hayden Proffitt, "Mickey Thompson" factory 1961 Pontiac Catalina 421 S.D. 1/4 mile in 12.55 seconds @ 110.20 MPH! Jim Wangers, 1962 Pontiac Catalina 421 S.D., 1/4 mile in 12.38 seconds @ 116.32 MPH! 1962-1963 Pontiac Catalinas ruled Nascar! 1963 Pontiac Tempests Ruled GT Racing, beating the 1963 Ferrari 250 GTOs and 1963 Cobras, 1963 Covette 427s, and whoever else was there by over FIVE MILES! Arnie 'The Farmer" Beswick, "Mr. Pontiac slaughtered the debut of the 1964 Dodge 426 Hemis and debut of the 1964 Ford Fairlane 500 "Thunderbolts" with his older with 421 S.D. 1963 Pontiac Tempests, one a four door station wagon! 1963 Pontiac Lemans Tempest 421 S.D., "Running Bear" did 1/4 mile in 11.89 sec. @ 123.28 MPH! Muscle Car Era; 1964-1972!
Internet References.; (1) 2006 Drag Racing Hall of Fame Inductee Arnie 'The Farmer" Beswick (2) www.arniebeswick.com (3) Ray Nichels (4) www.automotive-art.com, 'Racing in the Rain" (5) www.empgmc.com, " Race/Knafel" (6) grocerygeeter.com (7) Pontiac Performance 1955-1973, Archival Pontiacs (additional info;)(The Plymouth GTX is COOL, only two engine options; 426 HEMI or 440) (1970 Challenger Lots of Power 426,440, and Great Looking Car) (Ray Nichels in charge of Pontiac's Race Program, G.M. out of Racing 1963, Ray Nichels went to work on Dodge's Racing Program!)
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1970 Buick GSX 455 Ruled the Buicks, (Stage 1 never impressed me! Didn't they have other Stages?) I don't feel like searching for my 1967 Pontiac Owners Manual, I will take your word for now, 427 @ 390 H.P.! The Olds 442 was a good concept, 4 spd manual, 4 barrel, dual exhaust, but lost me when they contradicted themselves and put in automatics! I loved the cars without power steering, they said you couldn't turn them, I just turned the wheel a bit, reved up the engine let the clutch out, gave it some gas, peeled those tires and around she went, it was easy, I never had problems with non power cars, and what's with all these automatics, no body knows how to drive anymore?
BMW Fan
Classic Car Guy
1968 HEMI Dart
FerrariFan
69′ charger
FerrariFan
1972 Chevrolet Chevelle 454
1969 Shelby GT Mustang
mustang fan
‘Cuda 440 CID with 6 pack was probably the best but the 1965 Pontiac Catalina that I owned called the 2+2 that came from the factory with a 421 CID motor with 3 two barrel carbs, 4 speed, dual exhaust wasn’t bad either.
Porsche Guy
They were all great in their day now they are usually trailer queens…talk to people who remember these fine classics like in high school or buddies and let them tell ya…I remember riding around in a 1970 GTO Judge and a 1970 454 LS6 Chevelle and a 1971 Boss 351 Mustang or even a 1970 Plymouth Super Bird too… My Dad had a 1966 427 Vette 425 horse red with side pipes so that is my favorite…But there were so many nice examples that any muscle car from that era is a godsend…gas was about .25 cents and payments were like 100.00 bux a month and insurance was like 200,,00 dollars a year full coverage ..It was gone before we had a chance to appreciate them, we thought it was gonna last forever man…
Classic Car Guy
1970 Dodge Challenger 426 Hemi…This is mine…Although the Hemi Dart was mighty fine also!
Porsche Guy
1964 Ford Thunderbolt
mustang fan
1967 plymouth gtx….If it were,t for the 67 belvedere gtx the roadrunner and others would never excisted….It was good enough for Sox & Martin who won the winter nats,and richard petty,25 wins in a season with 10 in a row!!!Chrysler made factory race cars!!!!!Man 67 was a great year for mopar!!!I like,m so much there,s one in my garage!!!!
Truck Fan
don’t forget about the 1962 Chevy impala with a 409 speed transmission with 2 off set 4 barrel carbs,these were extremely powerful cars,and they were built in limited numbers,very rare and valuable right now
BMW Fan
My first car 1967 Dodge Coronet 500, it only had the b-block 383 HP, but man did it earn a reputation, It was not considered to many as a true muscle car because it was “only a 325 horse, 425 Ft./ lb Torque V-8″, but it was faster than many and ran hard, I agree 1967 was an excellent year for mopars , even the c-body Gran Fury VIP, came with a 440.
I choose the 1967 Dodge Charger 426 hemi 4-spd. due to it’s unique fastback design (66-67 only) and fold down rear seats, full console and fold down headlight system!
Lexus Freak
1970 Dodge Challenger
1968 Plymouth Hemi ‘Cuda
Buy Me
How about a vote for the Max Wedge cars of the early 60′s. Made for racing.
All time sleeper: 85 Omni GLHS 4 door, only made 500 of these beasts.
BMW Fan
68 or 69 dodge charger with a 440 magnum
Decoder
So riddle me this: If you’re posting on a Mopar board, what kind of answer would you expect?
So let’s start off with the Buick . . . you mean a Stage 1 and not the base 455, right?
Then, let’s move over to the Canadian . . . they never installed 427s in Beaumonts. Additionally, the top 427 available on the big cars was 390hp – they never installed the L72 in any of the big Canadians.
Onto the American Poncho . . . they only made 17 Judges with the 455 in 1970 – 3 ragtops, 14 hardtops. A more appropriate comparison would be Pontiac’s top dog, the RAIV.
Now which one is the greatest? The one that pushes your button, of course! And, no, that doesn’t include the Hemi Dart because it was a race car, not a street musclecar.